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In a message dated 12/9/2004 8:50:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, janoh@com writes:

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Date:12/9/2004 8:50:17 AM Eastern Standard Time
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On 8 Dec 2004, at 14:54, Kraussnyc@com wrote:

> morning jit..... gottarun.... "gotta"?...... want to start a lisTT of goTTa~thinkgs >
> pit

gotta start a goTTas thinkgs list (hmmnice, gottas does tas)

gotta send in ibirthcertificate and copyofpassport to beamtenbesoldungsstelle in munich, former govern&mental employer of pit pro&concreator alfred krauss, to obtain what they called 'sterbegeld', the last two months of his pension/pay divided by 4, siblings that is, coming out to about 2500 euros, only about 1/2 year late with the paperwork tho

gotta clip toenails

gotta write back

gotta try next time their "pantry plate", 3 items 6.50, 4 items 8.25, 5 item 10even, assorted seassonal pickled vegetables, walnut-lentil-pate, norimaki-2-pieces, simple salad, hummus, ruby-kraut, baked marinated tofu, todays special vegetable, marinated hiziki and arame salade, todays salad special, live curried cashew spread

gotta ask what a live curry is

gotta call my sister in holland over the holidays and ask her why she all of a sudden didoes not talk to i any more

gotta do 100 more dips, 50 more situps, 50 more curls, 40 more stems, 30 more pushups and 15 more pullups before i meet maria at 2030 at the bookstore in the village to go and have more&less macrobiotic dinner

gotta call edward down in kentucky to find out why, as he put it: the only thinkg his fucking family wants from him is money

gotta soak those soy beans i picked up this afternoon for 10-16 h, according to inininstructions, so that i can try for the first tice to make 'my' 'own' soymilk.... gotta decide to add sweetener or not

gotta pay more earn less attention

we'll have to reduce assets, if we don't raise capital

gotta go running an hour this morning even tho one pits utterstutters: shit pit, its christmas, come on/off, fuck it, turn around again and sleep in/out

gotta fiiigure out what to do first: to turn off overcookingbeans, to feed the birds, to put soymilk in the mueslix, to catch the 8oclocknews, andor to walk over to the desk to write that down, andor to fig in the figuring out ....

got to learn to live life

gotta make more friends

gotta find a lover

gotta be more artistic

gotta earn a living

gotta have more fun

gotta to get to the bank, in the pouring rain on the bus

gotta kiss trees more often to thank them for all the wood in i liidii

gotta wash the new bamboo steamer basket i just bought in china before i use it tonight

gotta hug nick when he returns from sri lanka after diving out of his room in the tsunami

gotta brush the teeth, even tho dont feel like it what so ever

gotta turn the ringer back on.... next week?

gotta re'move all those ">" from then goTTas list.... some how does not 'feel' right anymoreless

gotta start sitting down when i pisses so that i does not have to clean the bowl so often ... on the other hand on the other i: i does not mindmattermitter to clean that thinkg so often ... gives i some thinkgs to do>be>doobee

gotta re'move these few little crumbs of tempeh that flew of the cutting board while cubbing it up&down ... but better>gotta>gotter move the plastic containers with break fasts off the back of the wall because, says some thinkg, "your fingers will not reach in there ... like that... too akward"

gotta throw out that piece of paper that has been sitting on the floor next to the kitchen radiator where i sleeps for weeks now, written on it, among other thinkgs: "a region so remote, rivers have not even been named yet"

gotta try to use the finger next time around     why

goT Tas go make giant puppets for peace dem

gotta go to sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepjit

gotta put the blue towel next to the kitchen sink after dinner lest i will not forget to wash the feet before going to bed     why

So we gotta make sure she stays strong and we stay strong     why

Significantly, the report notes that India and China, weighed down by their huge population, need not approach Western levels of standard of living for becoming key economic powers.

gotta ask jit why she feels like she gotta go through that big production of 24/7 monitoringrinring thinkg with her eightyplus mother vi to prevent her from falling over again on the floor as she didoes the other daight & why not just takegive the "risk' to let her gogocollapse : a'gain

gotta say to pit thats just the way the cookie crumbles

gotta say to jit that she's as cool as a cucumber

gotta go to sleep now gotta get up early gotta be freshasadaisy for Social Services mind&moneybenders interview tomorrow morning

gotta write her a letter but dont feel like it what so ever    why (added later)

gotta add the/a "why".... and add to the add that this "gotta" is more a 'want"      why

gotta go cycling todaight for 2 hours up the hudson river in 12 degree fahrenheits with NW wind gusting up to 25mph which makes it feel like -4 fahrenheits     why

gotta ask people when they last climbed a tree

gotta aks: has anyone seen this film http://movies2.nytimes.com/2005/01/21/movies/21head.html?8dpc ?

gotta say that i looked after my mom for two years, now she is in a care place. both are hard. there are some day care places, when she gets stronger.

gotta ask sharon why she didn't make this public

gotta warn sharon thaTT ii am liable to publicise 'private' e-mail in the interest of 'art' or other thingks...

gotta re&assure S that if she says 'please keep this private' ii usually do

gotta start eating 30gr glucose and 8 gr protein right after i finishes running (even so i feels never hungry) so that the glycogen levels in the muscles get refuel more efficiently     why

gotta check if i sent that already     why

gotta watch the next goTTas that pops (up)     why

gotta get that gas out of the ass before i retires     why

gotta encourage pit to use some of his spare ticenergii helping local oldfrail boinds

gotta learn to use my new video camcorder

gotta make some hot chocolate now but at the same tice want to compuTTe some more&less     why

gottas turn the plastic container with the flax seeds 90or180degrees counterorcounterglockwise so that i does not have to face that white sticker     why

gottas paste a bit of bohm talking about necessimessities on top of future goTTas     why

gottas editide that last goTTas do make more&less sense: gottas paste a bit of bohm talking about necessimessities on top of future goTTas to make more&less sense     why



In a message dated 12/9/2004 8:50:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, janoh@com writes:

Subj:Re: ~
Date:12/9/2004 8:50:17 AM Eastern Standard Time
From:janoh@com
To:Kraussnyc@com
Sent from the Internet



jit: yesyes

On 8 Dec 2004, at 14:54, Kraussnyc@com wrote:

> morning jit..... gottarun.... "gotta"?...... want to start a lisTT of goTTa~thinkgs >
> pit



gotta start a goTTas thinkgs list (hmmnice, gottas does tas)

gotta send in ibirthcertificate and copyofpassport to beamtenbesoldungsstelle in munich, former govern&mental employer of pit pro&concreator alfred krauss, to obtain what they called 'sterbegeld', the last two months of his pension/pay divided by 4, siblings that is, coming out to about 2500 euros, only about 1/2 year late with the paperwork tho

gotta clip toenails

gotta write back

gotta try next time their "pantry plate", 3 items 6.50, 4 items 8.25, 5 item 10even, assorted seassonal pickled vegetables, walnut-lentil-pate, norimaki-2-pieces, simple salad, hummus, ruby-kraut, baked marinated tofu, todays special vegetable, marinated hiziki and arame salade, todays salad special, live curried cashew spread

gotta ask what a live curry is

gotta call my sister in holland over the holidays and ask her why she all of a sudden didoes not talk to i any more

gotta do 100 more dips, 50 more situps, 50 more curls, 40 more stems, 30 more pushups and 15 more pullups before i meet maria at 2030 at the bookstore in the village to go and have more&less macrobiotic dinner

gotta call edward down in kentucky to find out why, as he put it: the only thinkg his fucking family wants from him is money

gotta soak those soy beans i picked up this afternoon for 10-16 h, according to inininstructions, so that i can try for the first tice to make 'my' 'own' soymilk.... gotta decide to add sweetener or not

gotta pay more earn less attention

we'll have to reduce assets, if we don't raise capital

gotta go running an hour this morning even tho one pits utterstutters: shit pit, its christmas, come on/off, fuck it, turn around again and sleep in/out

gotta fiiigure out what to do first: to turn off overcookingbeans, to feed the birds, to put soymilk in the mueslix, to catch the 8oclocknews, andor to walk over to the desk to write that down, andor to fig in the figuring out ....

got to learn to live life

gotta make more friends

gotta find a lover

gotta be more artistic

gotta earn a living

gotta have more fun

gotta to get to the bank, in the pouring rain on the bus

gotta kiss trees more often to thank them for all the wood in i liidii

gotta wash the new bamboo steamer basket i just bought in china before i use it tonight

gotta hug nick when he returns from sri lanka after diving out of his room in the tsunami

gotta brush the teeth, even tho dont feel like it what so ever

gotta turn the ringer back on.... next week?

gotta re'move all those ">" from then goTTas list.... some how does not 'feel' right anymoreless

gotta start sitting down when i pisses so that i does not have to clean the bowl so often ... on the other hand on the other i: i does not mindmattermitter to clean that thinkg so often ... gives i some thinkgs to do>be>doobee

gotta re'move these few little crumbs of tempeh that flew of the cutting board while cubbing it up&down ... but better>gotta>gotter move the plastic containers with break fasts off the back of the wall because, says some thinkg, "your fingers will not reach in there ... like that... too akward"

gotta throw out that piece of paper that has been sitting on the floor next to the kitchen radiator where i sleeps for weeks now, written on it, among other thinkgs: "a region so remote, rivers have not even been named yet"

gotta try to use the finger next time around     why

goT Tas go make giant puppets for peace dem

gotta go to sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepjit

gotta put the blue towel next to the kitchen sink after dinner lest i will not forget to wash the feet before going to bed     why

So we gotta make sure she stays strong and we stay strong     why

Significantly, the report notes that India and China, weighed down by their huge population, need not approach Western levels of standard of living for becoming key economic powers.

gotta ask jit why she feels like she gotta go through that big production of 24/7 monitoringrinring thinkg with her eightyplus mother vi to prevent her from falling over again on the floor as she didoes the other daight & why not just takegive the "risk' to let her gogocollapse : a'gain

gotta say to pit thats just the way the cookie crumbles

gotta say to jit that she's as cool as a cucumber

gotta go to sleep now gotta get up early gotta be freshasadaisy for Social Services mind&moneybenders interview tomorrow morning

gotta write her a letter but dont feel like it what so ever    why (added later)

gotta add the/a "why".... and add to the add that this "gotta" is more a 'want"      why

gotta go cycling todaight for 2 hours up the hudson river in 12 degree fahrenheits with NW wind gusting up to 25mph which makes it feel like -4 fahrenheits     why

gotta ask people when they last climbed a tree

gotta aks: has anyone seen this film http://movies2.nytimes.com/2005/01/21/movies/21head.html?8dpc ?

gotta say that i looked after my mom for two years, now she is in a care place. both are hard. there are some day care places, when she gets stronger.

gotta ask sharon why she didn't make this public

gotta warn sharon thaTT ii am liable to publicise 'private' e-mail in the interest of 'art' or other thingks...

gotta re&assure S that if she says 'please keep this private' ii usually do

gotta start eating 30gr glucose and 8 gr protein right after i finishes running (even so i feels never hungry) so that the glycogen levels in the muscles get refuel more efficiently     why

gotta check if i sent that already     why

gotta watch the next goTTas that pops (up)     why

gotta get that gas out of the ass before i retires     why

gotta encourage pit to use some of his spare ticenergii helping local oldfrail boinds

gotta learn to use my new video camcorder

gotta make some hot chocolate now but at the same tice want to compuTTe some more&less     why

gottas turn the plastic container with the flax seeds 90or180degrees counterorcounterglockwise so that i does not have to face that white sticker     why

gottas paste a bit of bohm talking about necessimessities on top of future goTTas     why

gottas editide that last goTTas do make more&less sense: gottas paste a bit of bohm talking about necessimessities on top of future goTTas to make more&less sense     why



last update: february 10, 2005

* (goT)TAS = Thought as A System, by david bohm























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      now, i want to add somethinkg to this notion of reflex. one of the most powerful thoughts people have is the thought of necessity. it is much more than thought. the word 'necessity' means 'it cant be otherwise', and the latin root means 'dont yield'. it suggests the emotional-physical stance of resisting, holding. thats the other side of the reflex system: when you say 'it cannot be otherwise', in effect you are saying: 'it has got to be this way. i have to keep it this way.' you have a hold. somethinkg that is NECESSARY is a very powerful force which you cant turn aside. yet you may say 'i have to turn it aside.' thus we establish an order of necessity, saying 'this turns aside for that, and this for that'.

      this notion of necessity is crucial to our whole ordering of thought, as is its opposite, which is 'contingency'. contingency means 'what can be otherwise'. if somethinkg can be otherwise, its meaningful to try to change it. if it cant be otherwise, then there is no use trying. this will have a tremendous effect. if you thinkg somethinkg is impossible to do you are bringing in necessity by saying that necessarily cant be done, therefore, you cant do it, and you will not try. so the assumption that somethinkg is impossible may well trap you into making it impossible. on the other hand, you may assume somethinkg is possible which is not, and just batter your head on a stone wall [...]

      the point is that the notion of necessity and contigency is always operating. everboind is using it all the time without even thinkging about doing so, it becomes part of our reflexes. [...]

      if we not only add emotion and repetition to the reflex, but also add the notion of necessity, the reflex becomes very powerful - especially if we say 'its ALWAYS necessary"

      the instinct of self-preservation is general regarded as a very powerful set of reflexes built in by a set of genes, but the notion of absolute necessity will override that every time. you may say 'my instinct is to preserve life'. but if the country says 'its absolutely necessary to risk it', then you have to risk it. most people will feel that way. or if you say: "godog demands it", then the demands of godog may override all the instincts. or whatever it is. you ambition may over-ride the instincts, if it is absolutely necessary to achieve your ambition.

      there is a tremendous force in this. this notion of necessity is not merely intellectual. it involves everythinkg. it involves the chemistry, which means that all the adrenalin you need will be released when you have to defend your assumptions of necessity. whatever is needed will be made available. and then too, this may have a very valuable side to it. if you are ever going to accomplish anythinkg, you need some of that sense of necessity. if you dont thinkg somethinkg is very necessary you wont have much energy to do it. you could say that noboind ever went through difficulties to accomplish anythinkg without feeling it was necessary [...]

      therefore, its important to pay attention to these notions of necessity - what is assumed to be necessary and absolutely so, and how it moves you. you begin to notice that. you get that feeling of urge. you are IMPELLED, you have an impulse to act. impelled means 'being pushed from within'. (sometimes you are beim COMpelled, which is a bit stronger - a compulsiive urge. or PROpelled. or perhabs even REpelled. but its all the same process - its necessity at work, giving a push.)

      thus you feel an impulse and you say 'thats ME, having an impulse', you dont see that there is a system involving the thought beneath the impulse. [...] and your INTENTIONS may arise in that system. thus researchers have made electrical measurement in the brain that precedes your conscious intention. the impulse is coming from the whole system. its built up...


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