From ae.dropper at juno.com  Tue Dec 25 00:19:11 2007
From: ae.dropper at juno.com (ae.dropper@juno.com)
Date: Tue Dec 25 00:28:50 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] People please - just be different - was: message
	from admin
Message-ID: <20071224.181924.3184.275.ae.dropper@juno.com>

But then isn't your version, or Bohm's version, also a trap?


don

Yes. Anybody's [believed] version [concept] [of freedom for instance, 
or any psychological assumption at all] is a trap. And actually I never
heard Bohm give a 'version' of "freedom." I haven't either. Wouldn't know
how.  It would seem ridiculous to try.

Well . . . .   [on second thought] - except: 

"the continuous and simultaneous unfolding/enfolding."
I like that descriptive attempt a lot. It sort of repels
'trappiness'. And it's not just a description of "freedom."
It's a description of everything.

And then there was Janis (or Kris) - "Freedom's just another
word for nothin left to lose." But that one is an easy one to
get trapped in. It's beautiful but it can be trappy
in many ways.

--  funny


On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:35:27 -0800 donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com>
writes:
But then isn't your version, or Bohm's version, also a trap?


don


On Dec 24, 2007, at 8:46 AM, ae.dropper@juno.com wrote:


Yes, but if feels like just giving up, surrendering to the inevitable.
But it doesn't bring any greater sense of freedom with it,  (df)

These kinds of thoughts about freedom, or any kind of thoughts for that
matter, [if believed] are literal predictors of the 'sense' of it. We get
trapped in the map every time. There is no other trap.

--  funny

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:05:21 -0800 donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com>
writes:
scroll down please

On Dec 23, 2007, at 12:47 PM, ae.dropper@juno.com wrote:


>From a specific to the general. A general question comes up 
of what is it that makes us want people to act differently.
It seems a question where there is a lot of "shared meaning"
regarding the fact, the very common fact - a very 'true' "we-ness"
even, that there is this frequently strong desire that "people be
different"
[or "act" differently} and is there a more common frustration on the
planet
than the frustration that people just aren't "being different?"

I mean, even the people who "we" "want to be different" are, in their
turn, 
"wanting people to be different" too. And even me - am I, right now,
suggesting 
that I want people to not want people to be different? Have to check that
out. :-D 
Not suggesting at all though that this is 'wrong' in any way. Just
interested in looking 
at this functionally. What is the initial impulse? The specific thought
that triggers it. The 
thoughts surrounding that  thought. etc.


I wonder, if we suspend our ideas of right or wrong or good or bad, do we
find that we stop wanting ourselves or others to change? Somehow, I don't
think so. And would not wanting ourselves or others to change be good or
bad or better or worse.

Anybody ever been in a situation of living with someone for a long time,
and wanting
them to change over and over and over. And then it stopped - this wanting
them to change?
Remarkably unambiguous difference, isn't it.


Yes, but if feels like just giving up, surrendering to the inevitable.
But it doesn't bring any greater sense of freedom with it,


don

--  funny

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:45:57 -0500 "Irene Darcy" <irenedarcy@gmail.com>
writes:
KI:  That's all I ever wanted him to do - be civil.  Be honest and civil
at the same time.  And that's what he's forced to do now that his 'arsey'
persona is unsubscribed.  Make no mistake - s/he's still here.  Hello,
Pit. 


On Dec 23, 2007 10:38 AM, rob mooney <rob.mooney@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Does it make a difference if he's subscribed, so long as he isn't being
personally insulting to people and acting like an arse?



From: DFACTOR@dc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [Bohm_Dialogue] message from admin
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:21:00 -0800 

To: bohm_dialogue@david-bohm.org

I am informed that pit is still subscribed here under yet another name,
possibly more than one. He has written to Irene and quoted something she
wrote to the list after he was unsubscribed. So, keep your eyes open for
any hints. Susan has a very keen eye for such things. She was the first
to spot that AEB was pit. 


don


On Dec 22, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Don Lay wrote:


Please note that Peter's emails are no longer being distributed by the
bohm_dialogue list server.  He has been unsubscribed as
a.debakey@yahoo.com but is now sending his spam directly from his own
server as humanimal@thinkg.net. I suggest you update your spam filter. --
admin

Under the circumstances, I believe it is not inappropriate to pass on the
following which I thought was sent to the Bohm list but was actually
directed to one of Peter's addresses: 

[was something about Failure]

If dialogue, from the Greek dia logos indicates reason, is it reasonable
to expect a dialogue to be the use of reason and to eliminate the
ignoring of or distortion of reason and meaning?

It seems entirely reasonable, rational, and perhaps more to the point --
meaningful -- to not allow the lack of, or distortion of reason and
meaning, to occur in place of dialogue.

Some questions occur: 

May meaningful communication occur without reason, ratio, meaning?
Does communication occur absent reason, ratio, and meaning?

When reason, ration, meaning is distorted or absent, is communication
possible?  Is meaningful communication possible?

My view is that the moderator's present actions are reasonable, rational
and meaningful and are therefore, dialogical.  -dl

 


http:/// wrote: 
You are now unsubscribed from Bohm_Dialogue


 




The 'good'/'bad' news first: Pit is out (gone, booted, unsubbed,
'taken-care-of', dedialoged...).

The 'better'/'worse' knews next: s'he is NOT. S'he is still verii much
here, among yoUs.

Once again, D-Factor could not "take it", could not "handle it"... ~ so
he "pulled the plug" (oncommunication, and thus, at --the core of--
dialogue).

Once again, B-Dialogue could not "take it", could not "handle it"... ~ so
you "pulled the plug" (on communication, and thus, at --the core of--
dialogue).

Once again, B-Dialogue=you have failed, re failing.

Once again, the "problem/s" did not and do not and will not "go away"
because of this move(away).

Once again you will talk another trillion years  'penetratingly' about
(B)Dialogue, its beauty (beast): w/o, once again, for once, just once,
being able to let it happen: (B)Dialogue, to let it takgive place, time
(tice)... dobeing touched (penetration, see above) by it. Once again you
findy that groupi strength ("coherence", cohesion) in what Don Lay likes
to title: "Acting & Pretending". Once again, you wo'managed to gather
around the camp&fire&place of vanities, and superficialities, and
phonitities, softplaying, neckmassagings, makeupping..... And if it was
not so pathetictictic, I would congratulate you. 

Once again, the 'problem' pit will not go away by moving, pushing,
pullpushitting him/her/it offlist, & under the 'rug' (of
"self&awareness"). 

Once again, the "peters" of this world ARE a part of tas, ARE, thusly, a
part of YOU. ARE systemic, systematictictic.... And, like Bohm's story
about the woman who keeps beating herself (while) under the i'm-pressure
to be under attack: the attacked=the attacker= the attack. So, by 'any
means': go 'ahead', and keep beating yourselves, bones, while you drool
over that the-observer=the-observed=.... stuff(ing). bood luckg. 

ii is still hear, and watching, and in 'awe'.... see you in a bit/pit.

Tschuess  )(





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From: dialogue-admin 
To: bohm_dialogue@david-bohm.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] message from admin


Please note that Peter's emails are no longer being distributed by the
bohm_dialogue list server.  He has been unsubscribed as
a.debakey@yahoo.com but is now sending his spam directly from his own
server as humanimal@thinkg.net. I suggest you update your spam filter.

admin




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Ooooooooooh,
noooooooooo
problema, senor

will just use one of the other few hand-full-full-fulls  ;---))

ciao

cheers

.... later ... (wellaugh: soooon)

humanimal



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From DFACTOR at dc.rr.com  Tue Dec 25 02:35:03 2007
From: DFACTOR at dc.rr.com (donald factor)
Date: Tue Dec 25 02:42:44 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
Message-ID: <2D083258-2D7C-4423-B354-C2A88482D592@dc.rr.com>

twas the night before Christmas
And all through the house
Not a creature was stirring
Not even Pit Krauss.

The stockings were hung
by the chimney with care
In hopes that Debakey
would soon be elsewhere.

And then there was Alfred
and Zoe and Kirsten

Please add some more lines
I've got to go...........

Have a happy Xmas


From irenedarcy at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 03:22:31 2007
From: irenedarcy at gmail.com (Irene Darcy)
Date: Tue Dec 25 03:30:09 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <2D083258-2D7C-4423-B354-C2A88482D592@dc.rr.com>
References: <2D083258-2D7C-4423-B354-C2A88482D592@dc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <c47283890712241822k7d0ce4f6mc3db813d32c1b598@mail.gmail.com>

KI:  When suddenly we realized -
       My God - we miss 'em!

Kidding, folks!

As he drove out of sight,
Merry Christmas to all
And to all -
A good night.

On Dec 24, 2007 8:35 PM, donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:

> twas the night before Christmas
> And all through the house
> Not a creature was stirring
> Not even Pit Krauss.
>
> The stockings were hung
> by the chimney with care
> In hopes that Debakey
> would soon be elsewhere.
>
> And then there was Alfred
> and Zoe and Kirsten
>
> Please add some more lines
> I've got to go...........
>
> Have a happy Xmas
>
>
>
> info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue
>



-- 
Irene
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From donlay at knology.net  Tue Dec 25 03:47:12 2007
From: donlay at knology.net (Don Lay)
Date: Tue Dec 25 03:54:42 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
References: <2D083258-2D7C-4423-B354-C2A88482D592@dc.rr.com>
	<c47283890712241822k7d0ce4f6mc3db813d32c1b598@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015101c846a0$73e46a00$b5c16018@DL01>

I cancelled my land line and now only have a cell phone.  Send me your number and I'll call.

Do you think that sometimes Susan sounds like df?

Why do you suppose she would not meet you F2F?  -- dl


From: Irene Darcy 
  To: bohm_dialogue@david-bohm.org 
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 9:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)


  KI:  When suddenly we realized -
         My God - we miss 'em!

  Kidding, folks!  

  As he drove out of sight,
  Merry Christmas to all
  And to all -
  A good night. 


  On Dec 24, 2007 8:35 PM, donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:

    twas the night before Christmas
    And all through the house
    Not a creature was stirring
    Not even Pit Krauss.

    The stockings were hung
    by the chimney with care
    In hopes that Debakey
    would soon be elsewhere. 

    And then there was Alfred
    and Zoe and Kirsten

    Please add some more lines
    I've got to go...........

    Have a happy Xmas



    info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue




  -- 
  Irene 


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From: DFACTOR at dc.rr.com (donald factor)
Date: Tue Dec 25 05:32:31 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <015101c846a0$73e46a00$b5c16018@DL01>
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On Dec 24, 2007, at 6:47 PM, Don Lay wrote:

> Do you think that sometimes Susan sounds like df?

I do. Its very strange, sometimes I think she is me.

don

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From: donlay at knology.net (Don Lay)
Date: Tue Dec 25 05:36:29 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
References: <2D083258-2D7C-4423-B354-C2A88482D592@dc.rr.com><c47283890712241822k7d0ce4f6mc3db813d32c1b598@mail.gmail.com><015101c846a0$73e46a00$b5c16018@DL01>
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You're not using multiple identities are you like pk, are you? 

Aren't you up quite late?  What o'clock is it there?


http://www.knology.net/~donlay/
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: donald factor 
  To: bohm_dialogue@david-bohm.org 
  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)




  On Dec 24, 2007, at 6:47 PM, Don Lay wrote:


    Do you think that sometimes Susan sounds like df?


  I do. Its very strange, sometimes I think she is me.


  don




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From: DFACTOR at dc.rr.com (donald factor)
Date: Tue Dec 25 07:24:53 2007
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On Dec 24, 2007, at 8:28 PM, Don Lay wrote:

> You're not using multiple identities are you like pk, are you?
>
> Aren't you up quite late?  What o'clock is it there?
>
Ah, if I told you that, I would have to kill you.

don
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From: donlay at knology.net (Don Lay)
Date: Tue Dec 25 07:51:36 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
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Message-ID: <01af01c846c1$8a3bdab0$b5c16018@DL01>

The o'clock or the identity?


http://www.knology.net/~donlay/
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: donald factor 
  To: bohm_dialogue@david-bohm.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 1:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)




  On Dec 24, 2007, at 8:28 PM, Don Lay wrote:


    You're not using multiple identities are you like pk, are you? 

    Aren't you up quite late?  What o'clock is it there?

  Ah, if I told you that, I would have to kill you.


  don


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From ae.dropper at juno.com  Tue Dec 25 17:40:50 2007
From: ae.dropper at juno.com (ae.dropper@juno.com)
Date: Tue Dec 25 17:51:24 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20071225.114102.3184.277.ae.dropper@juno.com>

twas the night before Christmas
And all through the house
Not a creature was stirring
Not even Pit Krauss.

The stockings were hung
by the chimney with care
In hopes that Debakey
would soon be elsewhere. 

And then there was Alfred
and Zoe and Kirsten
When suddenly we realized -
       My God - we miss 'em

And lest we forget
Gas in the System
Who provided the beans
that powered our wisdom

But the fame that fled
too quickly to see
wore the brief frame of
penelope dube



On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:22:31 -0500 "Irene Darcy" <irenedarcy@gmail.com>
writes:
KI:  When suddenly we realized -
       My God - we miss 'em!

Kidding, folks!  

As he drove out of sight,
Merry Christmas to all
And to all -
A good night. 


On Dec 24, 2007 8:35 PM, donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:

twas the night before Christmas
And all through the house
Not a creature was stirring
Not even Pit Krauss.

The stockings were hung
by the chimney with care
In hopes that Debakey
would soon be elsewhere. 

And then there was Alfred
and Zoe and Kirsten

Please add some more lines
I've got to go...........

Have a happy Xmas



info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue




-- 
Irene 
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From irenedarcy at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 18:16:53 2007
From: irenedarcy at gmail.com (Irene Darcy)
Date: Tue Dec 25 18:24:41 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20071225.114102.3184.277.ae.dropper@juno.com>
References: <20071225.114102.3184.277.ae.dropper@juno.com>
Message-ID: <c47283890712250916j78995c0evf9220ab5d7e21fef@mail.gmail.com>

Love it, Pat!

On Dec 25, 2007 11:40 AM, <ae.dropper@juno.com> wrote:

>  twas the night before Christmas
> And all through the house
> Not a creature was stirring
> Not even Pit Krauss.
>
> The stockings were hung
> by the chimney with care
> In hopes that Debakey
> would soon be elsewhere.
>
> And then there was Alfred
> and Zoe and Kirsten
> When suddenly we realized -
>        My God - we miss 'em
>
> And lest we forget
> Gas in the System
> Who provided the beans
> that powered our wisdom
>
> But the fame that fled
> too quickly to see
> wore the brief frame of
> penelope dube
>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:22:31 -0500 "Irene Darcy" <irenedarcy@gmail.com>
> writes:
>
> KI:  When suddenly we realized -
>        My God - we miss 'em!
>
> Kidding, folks!
>
> As he drove out of sight,
> Merry Christmas to all
> And to all -
> A good night.
>
> On Dec 24, 2007 8:35 PM, donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > twas the night before Christmas
> > And all through the house
> > Not a creature was stirring
> > Not even Pit Krauss.
> >
> > The stockings were hung
> > by the chimney with care
> > In hopes that Debakey
> > would soon be elsewhere.
> >
> > And then there was Alfred
> > and Zoe and Kirsten
> >
> > Please add some more lines
> > I've got to go...........
> >
> > Have a happy Xmas
> >
> >
> >
> > info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Irene
>
>
>
> info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue
>
>


-- 
Irene
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From: irenedarcy at gmail.com (Irene Darcy)
Date: Tue Dec 25 18:32:39 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20071225.114102.3184.277.ae.dropper@juno.com>
References: <20071225.114102.3184.277.ae.dropper@juno.com>
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But we heard her exclaim
As she vanished from sight
Never fear, my dear friends
I'll be back
Just sit tight!


On Dec 25, 2007 11:40 AM, <ae.dropper@juno.com> wrote:

>  twas the night before Christmas
> And all through the house
> Not a creature was stirring
> Not even Pit Krauss.
>
> The stockings were hung
> by the chimney with care
> In hopes that Debakey
> would soon be elsewhere.
>
> And then there was Alfred
> and Zoe and Kirsten
> When suddenly we realized -
>        My God - we miss 'em
>
> And lest we forget
> Gas in the System
> Who provided the beans
> that powered our wisdom
>
> But the fame that fled
> too quickly to see
> wore the brief frame of
> penelope dube
>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:22:31 -0500 "Irene Darcy" <irenedarcy@gmail.com>
> writes:
>
> KI:  When suddenly we realized -
>        My God - we miss 'em!
>
> Kidding, folks!
>
> As he drove out of sight,
> Merry Christmas to all
> And to all -
> A good night.
>
> On Dec 24, 2007 8:35 PM, donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > twas the night before Christmas
> > And all through the house
> > Not a creature was stirring
> > Not even Pit Krauss.
> >
> > The stockings were hung
> > by the chimney with care
> > In hopes that Debakey
> > would soon be elsewhere.
> >
> > And then there was Alfred
> > and Zoe and Kirsten
> >
> > Please add some more lines
> > I've got to go...........
> >
> > Have a happy Xmas
> >
> >
> >
> > info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Irene
>
>
>
> info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue
>
>


-- 
Irene
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From DFACTOR at dc.rr.com  Tue Dec 25 20:18:27 2007
From: DFACTOR at dc.rr.com (donald factor)
Date: Tue Dec 25 20:26:16 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <c47283890712250924t730ca45ayd169795ac2204abf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20071225.114102.3184.277.ae.dropper@juno.com>
	<c47283890712250924t730ca45ayd169795ac2204abf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8AEF7E33-6C01-4D36-8DEC-DBB7089E4C71@dc.rr.com>

Now that's what I call real collaboration. The collective mind at work.

don

On Dec 25, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Irene Darcy wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 25, 2007 11:40 AM, < ae.dropper@juno.com> wrote:
> twas the night before Christmas
> And all through the house
> Not a creature was stirring
> Not even Pit Krauss.
>
> The stockings were hung
> by the chimney with care
> In hopes that Debakey
> would soon be elsewhere.
>
> And then there was Alfred
> and Zoe and Kirsten
> When suddenly we realized -
>        My God - we miss 'em
>
> And lest we forget
> Gas in the System
> Who provided the beans
> that powered our wisdom
>
> But the fame that fled
> too quickly to see
> wore the brief frame of
> penelope dube
>
But we heard her exclaim
As she vanished from sight
Never fear, my dear friends
I'll be back
Just sit tight!

>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:22:31 -0500 "Irene Darcy"  
> <irenedarcy@gmail.com> writes:
> KI:  When suddenly we realized -
>        My God - we miss 'em!
>
> Kidding, folks!
>
> As he drove out of sight,
> Merry Christmas to all
> And to all -
> A good night.
>
> On Dec 24, 2007 8:35 PM, donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:
> twas the night before Christmas
> And all through the house
> Not a creature was stirring
> Not even Pit Krauss.
>
> The stockings were hung
> by the chimney with care
> In hopes that Debakey
> would soon be elsewhere.
>
> And then there was Alfred
> and Zoe and Kirsten
>
> Please add some more lines
> I've got to go...........
>
> Have a happy Xmas
>
>
>
> info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue
>
>
>
> -- 
> Irene
>
>
>
> info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Irene
>
> info: www.david-bohm.org/mailman/listinfo/bohm_dialogue

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From lynne at lifedirectionscoach.com  Tue Dec 25 22:45:13 2007
From: lynne at lifedirectionscoach.com (Lynne Tolk)
Date: Tue Dec 25 22:53:05 2007
Subject: [Bohm_Dialogue] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <8AEF7E33-6C01-4D36-8DEC-DBB7089E4C71@dc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C396C7F9.FE08%lynne@lifedirectionscoach.com>

Fear not, World, the DB group is with thee.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas.

Lynne
On 12/25/07 12:18 PM, "donald factor" <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:

> Now that's what I call real collaboration. The collective mind at work.
> 
> don
> 
> On Dec 25, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Irene Darcy wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 25, 2007 11:40 AM,  < ae.dropper@juno.com <mailto:ae.dropper@juno.com>
>> > wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> twas the night before Christmas
>>> And all through the house
>>> Not a creature was stirring
>>> Not even Pit Krauss.
>>> 
>>> The stockings were hung
>>> by the chimney with care
>>> In hopes that Debakey
>>> would soon be elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> And then there was Alfred
>>> and Zoe and Kirsten
>>> When suddenly we realized -
>>> ?????? My God - we miss 'em
>>>  
>>> ?
>>>  
>>> And lest we forget
>>>  
>>> Gas in the System
>>>  
>>> Who provided the beans
>>>  
>>> that powered our wisdom
>>>  
>>> ?
>>>  
>>> But?the fame that fled
>>>  
>>> too quickly to see
>>>  
>>> wore the brief frame?of
>>>  
>>> penelope dube
>>>  
>>> 
> But we heard her exclaim
> As she vanished from sight
> Never fear, my dear friends
> I'll be back
> Just sit tight!
> 
>>> ?
>>>  
>>> ?
>>>  
>>> ?
>>>  
>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:22:31 -0500 "Irene Darcy" <irenedarcy@gmail.com>
>>> writes:
>>>  
>>>>   
>>>> KI:? When suddenly we realized   -
>>>> ?????? My God - we miss   'em!
>>>> 
>>>> Kidding, folks!?
>>>> 
>>>> As he drove out of sight,
>>>> Merry   Christmas to all
>>>> And to all -
>>>> A good night. 
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> On Dec 24, 2007 8:35 PM, donald factor <DFACTOR@dc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> twas     the night before Christmas
>>>>> And all through the house
>>>>> Not a creature     was stirring
>>>>> Not even Pit Krauss.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The stockings were hung
>>>>> by     the chimney with care
>>>>> In hopes that Debakey
>>>>> would soon be elsewhere.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And then there was Alfred
>>>>> and Zoe and Kirsten
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please add     some more lines
>>>>> I've got to go...........
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a happy     Xmas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 

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